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"Terrorist" Arrests
From: "Brian"
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 1:41 PM
Subject: FYI In Toronto
Star
Funny. The newspapers are full of fictional accounts of terrorist
activity. It only makes sense that they would now throw in a little
futuristic fiction as well.
My interpretation of Hetu's
piece is that he is urging us to take "terrorist" threats *more*
seriously - as if we haven't done so already - and that we ought not
make the fatal mistake of considering quaint, airy-fairy notions of
civil liberties and individual freedoms.
Science-fiction seems a most appropriate genre for Hetu. He definitely
lives on another planet.
YYC:
Thanks, Brian. All I had for that article was two measly words
and only one of them was printable.
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From: "Ron Saba"
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:45 PM
Subject: "Homegrown Terrorists" PSYOPS Scare Operations Multiply
Following close on the heels of the "Jewish Badge"
failed PSYOPS operation, we have now seen the emergence of a
coordinated "Homegrown Terrorists" PSYOPS campaign in the UK, US and
Canada.
Following the arrest of innocents in London, we had the goofy "Toronto
Paintball 17" and the "Miami Warehouse 7" big "Homegrown Terrorists"
busts.
One common thread has been evidence of law enforcement agents
infiltrating groups of muslim men and goading and prodding them into
some project with persistant offers of assistance and knowhow, or
fertilizer.
To most, however, what is apparent is a transparent effort by the
ruling governments to demonize and stigmatize all Muslims, whether
foreign or "homegrown".
I hate the term "homegrown". It carries a distinct odor of
institutionalized racism.
The following two articles from Kurt Nimmo are excellent assesments of
what
is going on:
Al-CIA-Duh
DVD Hits Toronto Streets
Feds
Raid Patsy "Terror Cell" in Miami
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From: SA
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:48 PM
Subject: Miami arrests
Note the contradictions in these 2 Yahoo news articles within the last
couple hours.
This one was posted first and says the suspects are part of a religious
group "Sea of David"?? no mention of Allah, "jihad" is not used and
there is no connection to Islam / Muslims or Arab/ Pakistani etc
countries of origin. THe only thing is the reference to Al Qaeda - but
it's not even in the headline! not mentioned until the 3rd
paragraph. What a soft headline too! Guess the articles
only get drummed up & sensationalized if they can be linked to
Muslims or Arab/Islamic countries.
Miami
men accused of discussing attacks
then this next article, posted just over an hour later, talks about the
suspects' oath to Al Qaeda, one witness states that they said they
devoted their lives to Allah... but later in the article the father of
one of the suspects says his son was studying the Bible. also mentions
their goal of "jihad" verus "waging war" in the first article. And the
headline now brings Al Qaeda into it.
Terror
suspects sought ties with al-Qaida
So, what are they going to do with this whole thing if they can't link
it to "savage Muslims" ? My bet is, if there is some real
evidence to a terror plot, they will start using the word conspiracy
instead of "terror plot", and the suspects will be tried as suspected
criminals rather than "terrorists". Remember
the Florida man who was arrested for plans to bomb a number of
mosqu Islamic institutions? He was caught with attack plans, bombs,
machine guns & other weapons in his home. But they did not
charge him with "terrorism"!
His
plea agreement:
Or if there is no evidence for these Miami suspects, and they can't
connect these suspects to the desired scapegoats, they will just
release them & drop the whole thing (but not hold them for years
without charges!), and it will disappear from the mainstream news.
YYC: Oh, I
remember Robert Goldstein allright. The reason being that a face
looking eerily like his was on the FBI website page entitled: "The FBI
Suspected Hijackers List", only the information for him was as follows:
Name: Issam Ahmad Dibwan Al-Makhlafi - AKA: Akrama - POB: Saudi Arabia
- DOB: 1977 - Nationality: Yemeni. I sometimes get the feeling that
where the "war on terrorism" is concerned, any old photo will do to
make it look as if they're doing something about it. Mossad has
people who can and do pass for Arabs, so who's not to say that this is
what Goldstein had planned? Anyway, the photo has since been
removed from the FBI site, which is odd considering that there's no
indication that al-Makhlafi has been caught. I can prove it was
there, because I saved the webpage for posterity.
Makhlafi's jaw (left photo) looks thicker than
Goldstein's (right photo) only because an attempt was made to remove
the background and whoever did it was not tidy. It's clearly a
very doctored photo. The hair is a PhotoShop job, for sure, and possibly the
slightly thicker, longer eyebrows. Wouldn't you think if the FBI
wanted the public to recognize somebody so they could be caught, they
wouldn't make it so difficult? Even the ears are obscured in the
Makhlafi photo.
 
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From: SA
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:36 PM
Subject: Toronto "terrorists" arrests
I just discovered your site the other day after the alleged "terrorist"
arrests as this whole thing impacts us here in Buffalo, NY (yes,
neighbor to the city of Lackawanna & the Lackawanna Six).
I am so VERY thankful for all the information you provide to everyone,
and grateful for your continuous efforts to educate Canadians and all
others who find your website. I immediately forwarded your
website to my mom, grandmother to my little ones, and a Bush / US
policy supporter {sigh}, and sent it along to many others as well.
I hope & pray that your writings, your search for truth and links
to articles pointing out the truth etc will continue helping others see
the importance of learning (& facing) the truth and speaking
out. Too many people, even those who are not necessarily
prejudice, just don't want to think about all the horrible wrongs the
U.S. and Canadian governments are involved in. But they have to, or
some day ALL of us will suffer, not just the Muslims or the Afghanis or
the Iraqis or whomever. Thank you for giving us hope.
YYC: Thanks
very much for your comments, but I hope you won't just put all your
hope in people like me on the Internet. We bloggers depend on
readers gettting active locally and making sure the politicians know
the people don't go along with the spin.
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From: "Marlyn"
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: Accused "guilty" before trial
Your commentary on Rocco Galati's assessment that the 17 alleged
terrorists will not get a fair trial rings so true. I, too, have
been shocked that the Muslim community is going along with the
government's agenda by assuming that the 17 suspects are guilty and
have been part of a terrorist plot. What strikes me while reading
their comments is the similarities in this case to the response of the
Jewish community prior to the second world war. As the Jewish
community complied with all government requests to follow guidelines
imposed by the Nazis, ever more restrictions on their activity were
imposed. Not only that, but the majority of Germans thought these
restrictions were necessary to protect them from " Jewish
terrorism". The Muslim community here in Canada will not gain
"approval" and be left alone as long as they take a submissive stance
in this initial step.
As a group the Muslim community must not assume these suspects
are guilty and they must become more pro-active in proclaiming their
innocence and their right to a fair and impartial trial. If they
continue to try to appease the government there is no guarantee that
they will be left alone. The agenda of the government (which
appears to be to set up a visible enemy justifying repressive
legislation, increasing spending on the military-industrial complex,
and justifiying illegal intervention in other countries to steal their
resources) needs to instill fear in the local populace and this time
around the Muslim community has been chosen as the target.
Appeasement will only encourage them to continue their course.
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From: Lech B. - Canada Watch
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: The GTA home-grown (indeed) terrorists and the secret
Bilderberg Group meeting
I have no access to any "hidden" information but taking into
consideration known facts and using logic has brought me to the
following conclusions:
1. The Toronto group, recently arrested on terrorism-related charges,
had supposedly planned to storm Parliament, seize politicians and
behead the prime minister;
2. An alleged plot to take MPs hostage on Parliament Hill was abandoned
at an early stage because the suspects — who hail from southern Ontario
— knew little about Ottawa;
3. Yet, our politicians and media has played this tune over and over
again. Why?
The childish activities of the 17 terror-related suspects could have
been true and could have been observed by Canadian authorities for a
long time. However, the manipulation of minors into a sting operation
must have been known to CSIS and RCMP to have zero potential in court.
Therefore, there must have been another reason to go ahead with this
otherwise stupid operation. Plus, the timing could not have been better.
It is clear to me now, that this was done to justify the increase in
security in and around Ottawa for the June 8 - 11 secret meeting of the
Bilderberg Group.
YYC: Ah,
Lech - you have a fatal flaw. Common sense combined with powers
of deduction. The very attributes the Prime Monger counts on
Canadians not to possess.
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From: Aramelito
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 8:19 PM
Subject: Dear Yaya
Thanks for being you :-)
I just found your website today, after looking for some 'truth'
regarding the (alleged) Toronto Terrorist mumbo jumbo. That whole
scenario just seemed too fishy for me and I wanted to find out more.
What you are doing is admirable and inspirational and you are actually
giving the world what it needs - hope.
Since you ask for no donations, I send you hugs and kisses and all my
support.
YYC: Thank
you, Aramelito. And right back atcha for taking the time to write.
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From: "Marlyn"
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: Toronto "terrorists"
Propaganda
Matrix has a good article on this story. As they point out,
the fact that Steven Chand, one of the suspects, has a military
background, is being downplayed or not even mentioned in the MSM. I've
been thinking this over and it seems quite plausible that the
government has set up this whole event in order to keep Bill C-36 and
other legislation introduced since 9-11 on the books. And also,
of course, to justify our illegal intervention in Afghanistan.
Thomas Walkom of the Toronto Star also has a
good article out, (Suspects seem strictly second-rate) revealing
the ineptness of the group and further outlining how an impressionable
group of young men could have been manipulated into following someone
like Steven Chand. I am outraged that the MSM continues to print
"Muslim" terrorists, thereby painting the whole community as "evil".
Western governments seem to be taking their
cue from the policies that were in place in Germany during the
thirties. "Good" Germans did not speak out then hoping things
would pass and all would be well. Even if it is not comfortable
to talk about the lies of government and their control of the press we
must continue to do so. Or, we will reach the same point as many
"good" Germans did and have no one left to speak for us.
YYC: The
Propaganda Matrix item is a reprint from Prison
Planet. I'm particularly intrigued by this statement: "In every high profile case
that we have
studied, terrorist links to security and intelligence services as well
as the military are uncovered."
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From: Tina S.
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: thanks a million
Thanks a million for a voice I wish could be heard all over the
world.
Like you I am saddened by the fact that we are being taken for
fools.
As a matter of fact I would have still been a fool if it weren't for
God guiding me to sites like yayacanada, williamcooper.com, and
whatreallyhappened.com.
Unlike you, I am a Muslim, a convert to Islam, and as such I feel that
I cannot express my views like you because it would be interpreted
differently. So, to me, you constitute the voice of the voiceless.
When 9/11 happened I was in my final month of pregnancy with my
daugther. I remember walking in the hospital that day, heavy and
tired, and I was confronted with the harshest remarks, like murderer
and GO Back to your country, and I was thinking to myself, what is up
with those people?
I finally had the luck of catching a glimpse of what was going on in
the world. And Ooh ya, it was those Muslims to be blamed. No
wonder,
here I am covered from head to toe, who wouldn't think that I was
related to these terrorists.
Like everyone else, It seemed obvious that the Muslims did it, and I
was really upset with the whole thing. I remember having this
discussion with a friend of mine, who told me not to believe everything
that was being said and to start looking for other sources of
information. I did and now, I really am doubtful that Muslims
could
have done it.
I said it then and I say it now, it was so hard for me to believe this
because Muslims are kind people and this cannot come from people who
love God.
So when those 17 Muslim men and KIDS got arrested, I was not too hasty
to pass judgement on them this time around. I began to critically
analyze each piece of news given to us and then resorting to your
website and whatreallyhappened to see the larger picture.
Other than the ridiculous accusations, like wanting to fly a plane like
9/11, and so forth I began to question other things.
Most of the people arrested were under 18 or just over 18. They
were
so young and the police have supposedly been watching them for 2
years. Given their age, why did they not decide to help them
correct
their ideologies? Why did they not approach the Muslim community and
ask for help in helping these kids out? If people heard gunshots
at
these supposed training camps north of Toronto, why wasn't something
done then? According to what I read, they were not very discreet
about
their activities, so why wait two years?
Also, every Muslim I know, loves living in Canada. We have jobs,
families, community schools, medicare, welfare, so why would Muslims
want to disrupt this? Who would benefit from this terrorism?
Would the Muslims benefit? No way!
Since I am a convert, and I am a single mom, life has been hard.
I
have numerously contemplated to idea of living in the Gulf.
However,
after weighing all my options, I still find that I would be happiest in
Canada, if it were not for all this discrimination.
And to me, all these seventeen people had families, very nice homes (as
seen on TV), jobs (like school bus driver), and they were happy it
seems. One of the accused has just come out of open heart surgery
1
1/2 months ago. I saw the tears on his father's face as he was
saying
this in a tv interview. I thought to myself, how good is all this
stress to an ailing heart. Do these people not have feelings?
Finally, I have come to the conclusion that all I am able to do is to
pray to my Lord to relieve the distress on my community and to write to
people like yourself and ask you to keep up what you are doing.
YYC: Thank
you for writing, Tina. I will continue because I can't seem to
help myself. It makes me crazy when I see how the police, the
military, and so many other people are ready to jump on board with
government sanctioned hatred. Best of luck to you.
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From: "Audience with the Devil"
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:24 AM
Subject: Remember Guy Paul Morin?
When schizoid Guy
Paul Morin was in a Canadian jail, some professional
police informers tried to hustle him into making foolish statements.
Since Morin was intimidated by people he thought were killers, his best
impression of a bad guy was to come out and say that he "red rums" the
innocent. (Red rum is murder spelt backwards. That line is from a movie.)
From all the braggadicio I've read so far, I wouldn't doubt that a
simular thing happened here. When I was a teenager, it was fairly
common to brag about your *ahem* manhood. I doubt things have changed
all that much.
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From: Naseer Ahmad
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 7:03 PM
Subject: Comment on RCMP role
Forgotten already is the RCMP role in bringing down the Liberal
government: On December 28, 2005, towards the end of a hotly contested
election campaign, the RCMP confirmed it was beginning a
criminal
investigation into the possibility of a leak from the Liberal
government prior to an announcement on the taxation of income Trusts.
The timing of the announcement was seen by many as an attempt to
influence the election. Result, a minority government was elected under
neo-con Stephen Harper.
First, you get a police-state friendly government in power. Then, just
before police-state legislation is up for review, you arrest 17
patsies...
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From: "Audience with the Devil"
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: The REAL war on terror
You know what the powers that be in the Islamic world really hate? The
fact that Muslims are over here. Stop and think about it. How many
women would choose to have their daughter's genitals mutilated? How
many women would choose to be given away in marriage to a man of their
father's choice? I could go on and on.
After hyperinflating the Islamic threat, Canada will shortly face a
massive 9/11-style attack. The goal will be the interment and/or
expulsion of the Muslim people. This would be a tremendous victory for
a church that vigorously resists reformation. My guess is that it will
invoke the imagery of the 1917 Halifax explosion. (Which many theorize
was blowback for letting 300 New York City communists leave a Halifax
jail for a mission in Russia only months earlier.)
YYC:
Okay,
I've stopped to think about it and have recalled that I know many women
who would choose to have their sons' genitals mutilated. Lots of
Catholic, Evangelical, and Jewish parents have been known to
choose their children's spouses by negative responses to their
children's relationships with people not of the right religion.
The Catholic Popes have vigorously resisted reformation, but they
haven't said how strongly they feel about having Muslims expelled from
Canada. I know that extremist Zionists hate the fact that Jews
live in other places besides Israel.
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From: "Ron Saba" Montreal Planet Magazine
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:21 PM
Subject: Harperland: Guns OK, Muslim Hot Dog Tongs Illegal
Recently
the Harper government scrapped the long standing Canadian law which
required gun owners to register long guns with the police.
More recently, the Harper government had 400 policemen armed in Rambo
gear to arrest 5 youths and 12 young
men because they
played paintball in farmland Ontario ("dark skinned folks gotta stay in
the inner city where they are not outta place") and seized the
incriminating evidence which as far as we have seen consited most
noteably of a hot dog tong, a barbecue gril and some batteries.
And oh yes, I almost forgot, the "terrorists" had in their possesion
some muddy boots (proof positive they ventured outside of the
inner city "where they are not outta place") .
The message from Harperland is clear.
If you are a white Christian good old boy living in the back woods of
Manitoba, Saskatchewan or Alberta, Harper encourages you to carry
around a rifle and fire it repeatedly in the fields and forests of
Canada, no questions asked and no registration required.
If you are a dark skinned Muslim from the inner city, Harper will send
the army in to arrest you if you are caught playing paint ball outside
of the inner city or if you have a hot dog tong or a bunch of batteries
in your garage.
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From: "Ron Saba" Montreal Planet Magazine
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: Will The Toronto "Raid" Also Turn Out to be a Hoax?
The Guardian newspaper reports today that it is beginning to look like
the "big terrorist plot" supposedly broken last week in London was a
hoax. You can read their report titled "Officials admit doubts
over
chemical plot: Intelligence
behind terror raid questioned as proof remains elusive
The article indicates that the authorities are already trying to figure
out how to cover their asses wonce the public figures out it was lied
to and an innocent man shot for no reason: "The Guardian has learned
that over the weekend police intensified their planning for dealing
with community anger if it turns out the intelligence was wrong."
As
reported in today's Toronto Star, experts are already casting
similar doubts about the "big terrorist plot" supposedly foiled on
Friday in Toronto.
Will the Toronto "Plot" Also Turn Out to be a Hoax?
YYC: The
Star article above:
"Police put on a good spectacle" doesn't change the fact that the Star,
along with the rest of the media, assisted the police to that very end
with all its gossip and innuendo.
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From: "Brian O'Connor"
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: The Toronto "Terrorist" Arrests
I share your skepticism about the recent "terror plot" that the RCMP
think they have averted. And like you I find it maddening that no one
in the MSM seems to appreciate the concept of innocent until proven
guilty.
Preventative arrests make me nervous. They seem to make some Canadians
feel content. Even safe. Not me.
If police bust into my apartment tonight they will find a balaclava
(ski mask). If they rummage through my wife's stuff (and I'm sure they
would) they would find a street map of downtown Toronto. On it is an
"x" in red ink. It marks the spot of a CIBC bank at Yonge and Bloor
Should I be preventatively arrested for planning to rob a bank?
It seems that the RCMP, CSIS and the press believe that I should be.
But the truth would be that I wear the balaclava when I go ice fishing.
It's COLD out on Lake nipissing in January!
And the "X" on the map is because my wife had travelled to Toronto to
visit her sister who works at the CIBC bank and she created directions
for herself (not being very familiar with the downtown.)
It's these sorts of details that good reporters will search for in the
coming days in regards to the terrorist arrests in Toronto (the
fertilizer, the "training camp", etc...)
I have made mention of your very useful "Toronto Terrorist Arrests"
webpage on my
blog. Let's keep a skeptical eye on this developing story.
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Ron Saba, Montreal Planet Magazine
June 3, 2006
See this archived
video from right wing talk show host Charles Adler of AM640.
In it he confirms that panelist National Post "Jewish Badge" journalist
Chris Wattie is a former soldier in the Canadian Army.
An interesting coincidence (?) is that another of Adler's guests is
journalist Joe Wormington of the Toronto Sun. On Thursday,
Warmington wrote the Toronto Sun scare article "Tracking
TTC Terror":
In their press conference this morning, police aurthorities have
confirmed that their arrests last night of so-called terror suspects
have absolutely no connection to the TTC Subway.
Is Warmington's scare article the latest in a co-ordinated PSYOPS
strategy aimed at creating fear amongst the Canadian population in
order to gather public support for pending military action?
Is the Canadian public being taken for a ride?
YYC See also: Iran -
Where are we headed?
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